I was surprised to read The Melbourne's Age newspaper describe Greenpeace as an 'eco-fascist concern':
Multinational stunt outfit Greenpeace Australia Pacific saw its supporter base decline and fund- raising costs blow out in calendar 2004. Accounts just to hand for the eco- fascist concern show that a bigger slice of its fund-raising efforts was swallowed up by costs, to wit, 36per cent compared with 31 per cent previously.
... keeping reading here, http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/some-red-among-the-green-as-costs-rise/2005/08/01/1122748581956.html .
So we haven't lost 30% of the world's tropical forests in the last 100 years - with most in the last 50 ?
Yes phil, I agree with all that you say, we can have 'our forest' and a productive timber industry.
http://www.greenspirit.com/printable.cfm?msid=30
Rog - well if there are more rainforests today than 12,000 years ago ... well there mustn't have been a lot 12,000 years ago - there's lots of dairy cows in eastern Australia grazing on ex-rainforest land. Brazil's lowland forest has been razed for agriculture. Do we think logging in Borneo is well managed ? Are you saying that we have as much rainforest today as we did in 1900 ?
via John Ray
1. Greenpeace have advised that "planned developments will lead to the damage or loss of between 33-42 percent of Brazil's remaining Amazon forest."
2. In 2000 alone, more than four million acres of rainforest in the Brazilian Amazon were lost to illegal and destructive logging, mining, industrial agricultural plantations and other human industries such as road building.
3. Despite alleged heavy clearing of "frontier forest" 772,200 square miles of forest remain in Brazil.
4. WWF confirm the area as being 4.1 million square kilometers.
This would mean that some according to Greenpeace between 1.35 and 1.72 million square kilometres are to be cleared.
WWF also advise that "each year 1.8 million hectares of forests are destroyed in the Amazon, more than any other forest on earth. Recent figures show that more than 23,000 square kilometres of the Amazon forest
OK, remove politics from trade, same as remove religion from politics, let trade run free from the corrupting political influence.
Would you support that Phildo?
Free trade? No tariffs? No kickbacks?
Freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of religion, freedom of race, freedom of movement etc
Might mean the end of Europe, could you live with that?
Yep fair cop - but also in The Age on diddly deals...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/tim-colebatch/the-greenhouse-challenge/2005/08/01/1122748574824.html
Is there nobody we can trust !