Jim "It is interesting to note the tents in the pro-AGW camp ....
Margaret Thatcher, Enron, big insurance, creationists, religious fundamentalists, financial markets, Greens, Rio Tinto, social democrats, Scientologists, Rupert Murdoch etcetera.
If nothing else, finding a common cause amongst that lot is a major achievement!"
I will add Madonna and Cameron Diaz.
Let's see who are skeptical. There is Paul Biggs, Bob Carter ...who else?
"all the radiative physics mentioned in those two recent RC posts"
Luke: your trouble is you either see yourself as a Cadre defending the indefensible or cannot pick good friends or sources.
(I hope the link works.)
http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/06/realclimate-saturated-confusion.html#950828671255856421
Margaret Thatcher, Enron, big insurance, creationists, religious fundamentalists, financial markets, Greens, Rio Tinto, social democrats, Scientologists, Rupert Murdoch etcetera have a lot in common.
They want money, and they'll say greenie words to get your money.
This is not rocket science.
No it doesn't - it shows climate sensitivity is what you'd expect or greater.
CO2 has both lead climate change events and acted as feedbacks to Milankovitch climate change.
We now know that Pielke is just another denialist.
The Earth's history shows climate sensitivity to CO2 is low.
As Pielke Sr says:
"Attempts to significantly influence regional and local-scale climate based on controlling CO2 emissions alone is an inadequate policy for this purpose."