KEVIN RUDD'S post-election visit to the Bali climate change conference to announce that Australia would ratify the Kyoto Protocol cost taxpayers more than $530,000.
The cost of taking the Prime Minister, five ministers and dozens of advisers and officials to the conference in December has been revealed in response to questions asked by the Opposition Senate leader, Nick Minchin.
The Sydney Morning Herald: Rudd's Kyoto team trip to Bali cost $500,000
Thanks Alarmist Luke,
I was discussing this with Dr Bernouilli, only the other day. He said he was under pressure to give an opinion to the IPCC. I recommended you as a relevant expert. Has he contacted you yet?
Sorry Alarmsky, thanks to participating here, one of the very best environmental blogs in the world, I am accustomed to lying and sucking up.
Travis - don't lie - we know you call the PM Kevie - we saw you at his reception sucking up as usual.
Well Davey yes they have. As you would know the valve throttling effect of Indonesian flow through, creates harmonic suction which neutralises such incidental phenomena. Also interestingly, a recent analysis of some of these plumes has identified them as wee from discharges dating back to Bali itself.
Bali was very suitable for a climate debate, since the Indonesian region is a major centre for the seismic/volcanic activity which is, I strongly suspect, a significant driver of world climate. Think of plumes of warm water moving east across the Pacific, and west across the Indian Ocean. Think of tsunamis off Sumatra and earthquakes in China. What say, Alarming Luke? Have your models allowed for this? It's known as the Central Lunatic Theorem.
Wow Schiller, I can't recall ever commenting here on AGW, and yet now I am to accompany our PM to climate conferences. You really do live in la la land.
Cinders asks rhetorically, I assume:
...who paid for the delegation from the Greens political party and all the ENGO staffers and lobbyists who had such a great time in Bali...?
Well, obviously, the lion's share was paid by those most opposed to the Greens' agenda.
Don't you worry about the Olympics, Creep. You can bet your boots that KRudd will find a way to get there to claim some of the applause earned by others.
What was the cost and who paid for the delegation from the Greens political party and all the ENGO staffers and lobbyists who had such a great time in Bali. Who is going to pay for all the GHG emissions made during their trips to this holiday location. It was nice to see Al Gore turn up in his enviromentally friendly form of transport.
Nah - it had to be Bali - as Indonesia - potential significant GHG source and sink - they wanted a turn. And war on terror - prestige - keeping them happy etc etc.
But the circus (and it was) is simply a reflection of the way all this international business is done these days - has to have some degree of security, enough hotels, everyone wants a turn. You want to have your bright sparks and policy wallas there too.
But why stop at Bali, there's APEC, or Davos - there's heaps of mega meetings on all manner of stuff. Now stockpiling for the Olympics screwing up the global fuel price. What a waste of money the Olympics is. Simply all for glory and kudos.
Then there was Johnny running a house in Sydney and one in Canberra.
But Wes - you are close to a solution - move the meeting to Mt Isa - jet airport already, far from terrorists, dignitaries could be safe from stray bombs and hot weather in underground bunkers (old mine shafts). Make that a permanent home for international AGW negotiations.