It is foolish beyond measure to enter into an Emissions Trading System (ETS) based on the hysterical predictions of CSIRO’s computer modelling. To quote Prof Freeman Dyson of the Institute of Advanced Study at Princeton, one of the world’s most eminent physicists: “The models solve the equations of fluid dynamics, and they do a very good job of describing the fluid motions of the atmosphere and the oceans. They do a very poor job of describing the clouds, the dust, the chemistry and the biology of fields and farms and forests. They do not begin to describe the real world that we live in. The real world is muddy and messy and full of things that we do not yet understand. It is much easier for a scientist to sit in an air-conditioned building and run computer models, than to put on winter clothes and measure what is really happening outside in the swamps and the clouds. That is why the climate model experts end up believing their own models.”
If there is global consensus that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are causing global warming, why is it that over 30,000 US scientists disagree and have petitioned the US government against actions to mitigate CO2 emissions? See http://www.petitionproject.org/
Why have the oceans been cooling for 5 years? Why is Antarctic sea ice increasing?
Why is it that despite the past decade of increased CO2 emission levels, the temperature has been stable and is predicted by the Hadley Centre to actually go down over the next decade?
We need to think very carefully before following the recommendations of the Garnaut Report, possibly the longest economic suicide note in Australia’s history.
Art Raiche
Killara, NSW
Trading junk bonds, derivatives, and other things that nobody's thought to name have driven the world's cash and credit markets into crisis.
Do we need "carbon credits" to add to this mess? There are a number of people headed to jail over selling worthless, imaginary investments. Selling and buying CO2 ranks right in there.
Al Gore in cuffs? This is, actually, not beyond imagination. They've already arrested guys with lots more money than he has.
A quote from the remembering (the time frame is pre WW 2):-
"--- it is hard to believe that purely engineering reasons can explain it. Politics and idealogy lead to strange things in pre-war France and it must be in these areas that the explanation is to be found"
Those types of suggestions do not surprise me, Ivan. After all, the benevolent uncle Joe Stalin did just that in the Soviet Union, relocating entire peoples to the frozen wastes of Siberia, where he decreed new cities and industries would hence come forth. And they did.
What's a few tens of million of deaths if your aim is saving the planet, no less! Besides, every greenie knows that there are too many people alive now as it is.
The totalitarian tendencies of the modern Left have really never strayed too far from the tried and tested ones practised by their last century spiritual brethren. Alas, those who forget history are bound to repeat it & those of us who do remember are in the minority.
Ah ha, sorta like big rock-candy mountains, then?
They seriously believe that core industries will remain under a major (world leading) carbon tax while there are 2.5 billion chinese and indians who will not be taxing?
Ian,
The problem was - she wasn't suggesting that these people return to be "horny handed sons of toil". The proposition was that industry would relocate to these regional centres and, in effect, work camps would be set up around them. So you would have a GMH 'work camp' and a Ford 'work camp' and so on. And Ford and GMH would pick up all the tab for this, of course.
When I made the obvious comment that if Ford and GMH (and whoever) had to make an investment of this magnitude just to keep a bunch of brainless greenies (sorry - tautological, I know) happy, why wouldn't they just spend a hell of a lot less and move the whole operation to China or Thailand? Doubly so, given that no-one here will be allowed to drive cars, anyway - at least not if Ender and his Brownshirts get their way.
And who would want it anyway? If it comes to that, put the needle in first.