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By jennifer
September 22, 2014
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"The mass crushes out the insight and reflection that are still possible with the individual, and this necessarily leads to doctrinaire and authoritarian tyranny if ever the constitutional State should succumb to a fit of weakness.

In a state of collective possession they are the adapted ones and consequently they feel quite at home in it.  C.G. Jung 1957, page 5

In a state of collective possession they are the adapted ones and consequently they feel quite at home in it. C.G. Jung 1957, page 5

"Rational argument can be conducted with some prospect of success only so long as the emotionality of a given situation does not exceed a certain critical degree. If the effective temperature rises above this level, the possibility of reason's having any effect ceases and its place is take by slogans and chimerical wish-fantasies. That is to say, a sort of collective possession results which rapidly develops into a psychic epidemic."

The Undiscovered Self by C.G. Jung. 1957. Pages 4-5.

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  1. “We are overdue for the biggest ideology collapse in history, begging for an investigation into why the mainstream media and influential politicians apparently never checked the veracity of claims about “settled science” and “corrupt skeptics.”

    Russell Cook

  2. Here is some more from that Graham Lloyd article: Climate not as sensitive to carbon dioxide

    'The findings have generated vigorous international debate about an issue that remains a key area of uncertainty in climate ­science.

    'Dr Curry said the paper was not the last word of climate sensitivity because it related only to the uncertainty in external forcing, surface temperature and ocean heat uptake.
    It did not take account of solar influence or ­internal variability.

    'In an essay published this week, President Barack Obama’s former climate advisor Steven Koonin said today’s best estimate of the sensitivity was no different, and no more certain, than it was 30 years ago despite billions of dollars having been spent.'

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/climate-not-as-sensitive-to-carbon-dioxide/story-e6frg6xf-1227072070917

  3. Revkin critiques Koonin

    'Climate skeptics often argue that, during the last fifteen years, global temperatures have been nearly flat and that climate models are unable to predict or explain this pattern.

    'This so-called “climate hiatus” rears its head again in Dr. Koonin’s editorial. In fact, these last fifteen years are in no way surprising: 1998 was an extremely hot El Niño year and the early 2000s were at the peak of a strong solar cycle.

    'The remarkable thing is that global temperatures have remained close to the peak values of the late 1990s despite the fact that natural sources of variability would indicate that they should have cooled.

    'A statistical model (based on the work of Judith Lean at the Naval Research Laboratory) that accounts for solar variability, El Niño, volcanic activity, and greenhouse warming indicates that the underlying trend of global warming has accelerated over the past 15 years.

    'We are further baffled by Dr. Koonin’s implication that climate feedbacks are so complicated that there might be some negative feedback that makes the whole thing go away. Yes, the detailed physics of feedbacks are uncertain, but understanding isn’t just based on theory or recent history.

    'The geological record is filled with evidence that feedbacks (mostly water vapor, some others) will amplify the intrinsic greenhouse signal, and we are not aware of any evidence to support the notion that a “white knight” negative feedback will make this all go away.

    'Dr. Koonin is correct that there is still uncertainty about the magnitude of the impacts of climate change and society will have to make decisions under such uncertainty.
    He seems to suggest, however, that there is enough scientific uncertainty that we can’t even claim that the impacts of climate change will cause harm.'

  4. 'A new paper has found the earth’s climate was less sensitive to increasing levels of carbon dioxide than previously claimed.'

    Graham Lloyd / Oz

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